SHOULD MARGARET THATCHER HAVE A STATE FUNERAL?
What kind of people are we that we consistently throw up and admire that kind of leadership? Care for no one but yourself. She was the first one to strike a serious blow against the trade union movement, started the privatisation of our state utilities, started the dismantling of our communities, a self aggrandising war against Argentina, leading ultimately to the wars against Iraq and Afghanistan and then the banking collapse. The ‘triumph’ of greed. And now….. GOOD RIDDANCE I say.
Any funeral should be based on standard precedent for her position. If as a Baroness, a state funeral is standard, or if as a former PM it’s standard, then yes.
If it isn’t standard, then NO.
It’s a bit like the argument about flying the Union Flag in Belfast, the argument for it being flown continually was at odds to the precedent set in the rest of the UK i.e. it is only flown on certain occasions and the democratic vote was to change to match the rest of the UK and yet there were riots by supposed Unionists against a democratic and standard decision.
Personally I think this is the best way to handle anything to do with either Margaret Thatcher and Arthur Scargill as neither were entirely wrong, but nor were either entirely right….
There’ll be a lot of street parties oop norf.
My favourite tweet so far on the subject is this: “There’s no such thing as society.” – Margaret Thatcher. “There’s no such thing as Margaret Thatcher.” – Society.
No state funeral thank you!
Whilst not agreeing with her policies, she was elected by the people in a democratic way, but as far as a state funeral, No, this could encourage others to follow her Right wing views, or even a snap general election.
When ego goes out of control – a history lesson that’s never learnt!
I remember being very excited that a woman became prime minister – we’d had strong women in politics – Barbara Castle, Shirley Williams, Golda Meir etc. But a woman PM – amazing!
She put UK on the map in international politics, gave people the right to buy their own home, created aspirations for all. Maybe a feeling of equality for all – that we have a right to aspire to more if we work hard? But, I believe at great cost to us. The demise of community, society as we knew it. A time of prosperity as the family treasurers were sold off. In some respects there was a case to give them to the private sector to run, the public sector doesn’t have much success with running our property. Greed is good was the war cry of the time (sink the Belgrano was the other one). What have we inherited? Aspirations greater than our ability to earn, debt, austerity, lack of savings, breakdown in community.
Margaret Thatcher was our elected Prime Minister, and for that alone, I believe that she should be honoured in her death in some form. A state funeral is not necessary, apparently she didn’t think so either.
Spare a thought for the thousands of elderly people in the UK suffering with dementia who aren’t lucky enough to end their days being cared for round the clock in The Ritz.
“Thatcher’s whole philosophy was that she measured the price of everything and the value of nothing, and we have to replace that…for 10 years it is the bad that has been promoted and the good that has been denounced as lunatic, out-of-touch, cloud cuckoo land and extremist” – Tony Benn, 1990
When Margaret Thatcher first became Prime Minister, I was thrilled. I thought she was “the best thing since sliced bread” because she stood up to the pompous idiots who had previously run parliament, allegedly on our behalf, and particularly stood up for us in Europe. However, and this is where I think the rules let us down, she was elected for a third term, following the success in the Falklands (incidentally, throughout history – you know I’m an historian? – no Argentinean has ever lived on the Falkland Islands) and that was a BIG mistake. It also happened with the idiot Tony Blair. Any Prime Minister elected to a third term believes they have carte blanche to do as they please, which is exactly what they both did.
The worst, and most horrific, part of Margaret Thatcher’s legacy was to sell off our essential services. We are now paying through the nose, with money we can ill-afford or just don’t have, for our gas, electricity and water supplies. In this 21st century, we cannot live without any of them, but especially water. Why on earth did anyone think it just that we should pay extortionate salaries and bonuses to thousands of employees, prices that incorporate the costs of dozens of different companies’ business premises, equipment, vehicles, etc, and ridiculous dividends to shareholders who bleed us dry (literally) for profits on their investments? There are people dying because they can’t afford to pay for this stupidity – for things to which we should all be entitled! It is a national disgrace and will remain, in my mind, Margaret Thatcher’s legacy.
I feel sad hearing of the death of Margaret Thatcher, she certainly was a strong woman and did a lot of good for the country. Our people were starting to dictate to the government of what they wanted, such as, more money less hours to work, this would not be accepted by any Government . This attitude from the people began to ruin our country, our car manufacturers started moving to other countries. Margaret Thatcher closed the pits which did cause problem to many, but the pits were not paying for them selves and wasting money. I didn’t agree with the selling of council houses, this is now proving to have been a bad idea. Arthur Scargill was a big thorn in her side and his continual threats of strikes and inciting the crowds to violence, brought the country to it’s knees, but she still held on, what a strong woman.
The country would have been in a worse state today, if we hadn’t been through the Thatcher years. At least our people in the Thatcher years took any job available, just look at our unemployed today. This is the legacy left from Blair.
“It is our duty to look after ourselves and then also to help look after our neighbour and life is a reciprocal business and people have got the entitlements too much in mind without the obligations.”
This was Thatcher’s belief; if the country as a whole still abided by this we would not have the financial and social problems from which we now suffer.
Yes indeed, Margaret Thatcher should have a state funeral.
The funeral should be put out to tender and given to the lowest bidder!